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Problems Generating Unit Train Turn, 'Sugarbeet Express'
Frascati
post Nov 20 2007, 04:26 AM
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I tried to set up an activity for Rich Garbers Ohio route, based about a sugar beet train from Zanesville to Byesville Interchange where it picks up empties and returns to Zanesville.

To do this I designated Track 8 at Zanesville as an industry track supplying loaded sugar beet cars, wanting empties... and interchange track 3 at Byesville as an industry track supplying empties and wanting full cars...

I specified Zanesville Track 6 ( a natural entry into the Zanesville yard ) as an ending location, and specified assemble train. I expected to end the activity on this track when I decoupled engines and caboose...

I generated the following activity... as you see the swap for sugar beet cars worked ( sort of... 4xF7's will take 2 cars there and 2 empties back! ), but most of the activity involves switching random cars in the Zanesville Yard... not appropriate work for these ATSF ladies...

Is there any way I can set this activity up to work the way I'd like?

Cambridge Interchange 3 PICKUP 32865 0 ATSF_SUGARBEETCAR-2 SBMT DEST: Z RR Yard 6 - Modern
Cambridge Interchange 3 PICKUP 32865 1 ATSF_SUGARBEETCAR-2 SBMT DEST: Z RR Yard 6 - Modern
Cambridge Interchange 3 SETOUT 32857 0 ATSF_SUGARBEETCAR-1 SBLD FROM: Z RR Yard 8 - Modern
Cambridge Interchange 3 SETOUT 32857 1 ATSF_SUGARBEETCAR-1 SBLD FROM: Z RR Yard 8 - Modern

Zanesville Z RR Yard 8 - Modern PICKUP 32857 0 ATSF_SUGARBEETCAR-1 SBLD DEST: Interchange 3
Zanesville Z RR Yard 8 - Modern PICKUP 32857 1 ATSF_SUGARBEETCAR-1 SBLD DEST: Interchange 3
Zanesville Z RR Yard 8 - Modern PICKUP 32857 2 ATSF-USRA-EMPTY HPMT DEST: Z RR Yard 6 - Modern
Zanesville Z RR Yard 8 - Modern PICKUP 32857 3 ATSF-40ft-flat-E F DEST: Z RR Yard 6 - Modern
Zanesville Z RR Yard 8 - Modern PICKUP 32857 4 ATSF-40ft-flat-E F DEST: Z RR Yard 6 - Modern
Zanesville Z RR Yard 8 - Modern PICKUP 32857 5 ATSF-USRA-Coal CL DEST: Z RR Yard 6 - Modern
Zanesville Z RR Yard 8 - Modern PICKUP 32857 6 ATSF-40ft-flat-E F DEST: Z RR Yard 6 - Modern
Zanesville Z RR Yard 8 - Modern PICKUP 32857 7 ATSF-USRA-Coal CL DEST: Z RR Yard 6 - Modern
Zanesville Z RR Yard 8 - Modern PICKUP 32857 8 ORCX40_Chemical_No4 SOLV DEST: Z RR Yard 6 - Modern
Zanesville Z RR Yard 8 - Modern PICKUP 32857 9 ORCX40_Chemical_No4 SOLV DEST: Z RR Yard 6 - Modern
Zanesville Z RR Yard 8 - Modern PICKUP 32857 10 CHEM-CH-30-R_e CHM DEST: Z RR Yard 6 - Modern
Zanesville Z RR Yard 8 - Modern PICKUP 32857 11 ATSF-GON50_s G50S DEST: Z RR Yard 6 - Modern
Zanesville Z RR Yard 8 - Modern PICKUP 32857 12 ATSF-GON50_s G50S DEST: Z RR Yard 6 - Modern
Zanesville Z RR Yard 8 - Modern PICKUP 32857 13 ATSF-GON40_sc SCP DEST: Z RR Yard 6 - Modern
Zanesville Z RR Yard 8 - Modern PICKUP 32857 14 ATSF-GON40_e GMT DEST: Z RR Yard 6 - Modern
Zanesville Z RR Yard 8 - Modern PICKUP 32857 15 ATSF-USRA-EMPTY CLMT DEST: Z RR Yard 6 - Modern
Zanesville Z RR Yard 8 - Modern PICKUP 32857 16 ATSF-USRA-EMPTY CLMT DEST: Z RR Yard 6 - Modern
Zanesville Z RR Yard 8 - Modern PICKUP 32857 17 JRG-CH-30_e CMT DEST: Z RR Yard 6 - Modern

Zanesville Z RR Yard 6 - Modern SETOUT 32857 2 ATSF-USRA-EMPTY HPMT FROM: Z RR Yard 8 - Modern
Zanesville Z RR Yard 6 - Modern SETOUT 32857 3 ATSF-40ft-flat-E F FROM: Z RR Yard 8 - Modern
Zanesville Z RR Yard 6 - Modern SETOUT 32857 4 ATSF-40ft-flat-E F FROM: Z RR Yard 8 - Modern
Zanesville Z RR Yard 6 - Modern SETOUT 32857 5 ATSF-USRA-Coal CL FROM: Z RR Yard 8 - Modern
Zanesville Z RR Yard 6 - Modern SETOUT 32857 6 ATSF-40ft-flat-E F FROM: Z RR Yard 8 - Modern
Zanesville Z RR Yard 6 - Modern SETOUT 32857 7 ATSF-USRA-Coal CL FROM: Z RR Yard 8 - Modern
Zanesville Z RR Yard 6 - Modern SETOUT 32857 8 ORCX40_Chemical_No4 SOLV FROM: Z RR Yard 8 - Modern
Zanesville Z RR Yard 6 - Modern SETOUT 32857 9 ORCX40_Chemical_No4 SOLV FROM: Z RR Yard 8 - Modern
Zanesville Z RR Yard 6 - Modern SETOUT 32857 10 CHEM-CH-30-R_e CHM FROM: Z RR Yard 8 - Modern
Zanesville Z RR Yard 6 - Modern SETOUT 32857 11 ATSF-GON50_s G50S FROM: Z RR Yard 8 - Modern
Zanesville Z RR Yard 6 - Modern SETOUT 32857 12 ATSF-GON50_s G50S FROM: Z RR Yard 8 - Modern
Zanesville Z RR Yard 6 - Modern SETOUT 32857 13 ATSF-GON40_sc SCP FROM: Z RR Yard 8 - Modern
Zanesville Z RR Yard 6 - Modern SETOUT 32857 14 ATSF-GON40_e GMT FROM: Z RR Yard 8 - Modern
Zanesville Z RR Yard 6 - Modern SETOUT 32857 15 ATSF-USRA-EMPTY CLMT FROM: Z RR Yard 8 - Modern
Zanesville Z RR Yard 6 - Modern SETOUT 32857 16 ATSF-USRA-EMPTY CLMT FROM: Z RR Yard 8 - Modern
Zanesville Z RR Yard 6 - Modern SETOUT 32857 17 JRG-CH-30_e CMT FROM: Z RR Yard 8 - Modern
Zanesville Z RR Yard 6 - Modern SETOUT 32865 0 ATSF_SUGARBEETCAR-2 SBMT FROM: Interchange 3
Zanesville Z RR Yard 6 - Modern SETOUT 32865 1 ATSF_SUGARBEETCAR-2 SBMT FROM: Interchange 3

ASSEMBLE TRAIN (at any location) in this order: ------------------
32865 0 ATSF_SUGARBEETCAR-2 SBMT
32865 1 ATSF_SUGARBEETCAR-2 SBMT
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sgdavis
post Nov 20 2007, 07:00 PM
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QUOTE(Frascati @ Nov 20 2007, 04:26 AM) *
Hi

I tried to set up an activity for Rich Garbers Ohio route, based about a sugar beet train from Zanesville to Byesville Interchange where it picks up empties and returns to Zanesville.

To do this I designated Track 8 at Zanesville as an industry track supplying loaded sugar beet cars, wanting empties... and interchange track 3 at Byesville as an industry track supplying empties and wanting full cars...

I specified Zanesville Track 6 ( a natural entry into the Zanesville yard ) as an ending location, and specified assemble train. I expected to end the activity on this track when I decoupled engines and caboose...

I generated the following activity... as you see the swap for sugar beet cars worked ( sort of... 4xF7's will take 2 cars there and 2 empties back! ), but most of the activity involves switching random cars in the Zanesville Yard... not appropriate work for these ATSF ladies...

Is there any way I can set this activity up to work the way I'd like?


I didn't see every setting you made but I would offer the following suggestions (I'm assuming you have edited the CSV file to make these tracks "want" loaded sugar beet and ship empty sugar beet and vice versa).

Set Track 8 at Zanesville as a "source" track if you'll be picking up cars from there to set out somewhere else later, then set interchange track 3 at Byesville as and Industry track (in the generate activity box not in the CSV file). Finally set Zanesville Track 6 as the "destination track", which is where cars picked up at Industry tracks get set out.

One possible problem: with the randomization factor you could get some loads picked up on track 8 in Zville that then need to be delivered to Zville track 6, not what you're looking for. You should be able to avoid this (but may need to try generating the activity a couple of times) by setting the "maximum cars to pickup at any single industry siding" and "maximum cars to set out at any single industry siding", each higher than the "maximum total cars to handle." Also try checking the "Force all industry tracks selected for pickup, to pickup all cars on track" box.

Let me know how this works out for you.

Also per your other trouble report I will fix the reading of the .ags file and then it will be easier to generate multiple times until you get what you want.

Thanks,

Steve


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