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Posted by: xpdingo Feb 22 2018, 06:01 PM

Hi to everyone,
I have been away for quite a while. Over 2 1/2 years ago I was hit by a nasty PC virus that just about ruined everything in my PC and external HD. At that time my son was dealing with heart and kidney failure and Train Sim seemed unimportant. He is now waiting for a heart and kidney transplant.
I didn't know my 2014 PRR Template was no longer in the Template list. The PRR Template was the only thing I didn't lose because I had it stored on an online storage site. I also received a copy from Harlen in this forum.
For those who are unfamiliar with PRR Eastern route it is the largest route ever made. It took 10 men 6 years to create. It has 4500 miles of track, 2400 sidings, 87 yards and covers 3 Divisions and 5 Railroads (PRR-B&O-CNJ-LV-RDG).
I want to add to the Template Package with some new ideas I have come up with before I repost it. It now has 115 templates and I want to add 5 to 10 more. Right now it has very large files, Activities (.act, .Pro, .ctp, .cvs and .tdb)-576, Consists-171, Traffic-121, Paths-336 and Services-786.
When ready I will send a screen shot and a link for downloading it. It will be a complete Mini-Route with everything except the Valley Pass Payware. You will need the PRR 1950 set, the PRR#3 set and the Troop set.

Posted by: dgionet Feb 22 2018, 06:36 PM

Thanks for the update Pete.

Quite some large numbers here. Did some exploring on the PRR recently. With OR now, running the PRR will be more performant and stable than during the MSTS only era.

Thanks again for your efforts

Posted by: ckawahara Feb 22 2018, 07:52 PM

Check out TS.com....Vince is updating the PRR ER to correct track in at least one area, maybe more, which will probably negate existing activities. He is also removing phantom switches. There is a dedicated forum for his efforts. His update will use the fix06 version of the public beta.

Posted by: xpdingo Feb 22 2018, 08:54 PM

QUOTE(ckawahara @ Feb 22 2018, 07:52 PM) *
Check out TS.com....Vince is updating the PRR ER to correct track in at least one area, maybe more, which will probably negate existing activities. He is also removing phantom switches. There is a dedicated forum for his efforts. His update will use the fix06 version of the public beta.


Thanks Craig,
I sent a PM to Vince to see how this will effect my Template. I posted the template as a mini route to avoid any problems. I have the route as it was sent to me from the developers as it was being created. I seems many people are getting different version when they install it.
I have never has any problems running it. At 75 years old starting over is a nightmare.

Pete

Posted by: ckawahara Feb 22 2018, 10:24 PM

Hi Pete.

I've prepped myself with a clean installation of the PRR ER Fix 06 cuz' from the forum post, the TDB has changed. Just an info in case you do not have it, the public beta PRRFIX06 (with tdb dated 02/11/2011 48,241 KB) is also known as beta 16 for the cd version, if my info is correct. This is based on the readme files files found in the downloads of PRR ER at TS.com. The forum post states that prrfix07 (tbd dated 07/14/2012, 47,919 KB) will not work with Vince's rebuild.

By-the-by, it's good to see the some familiar names posting here.


Craig

Posted by: xpdingo Feb 23 2018, 02:25 PM

QUOTE(ckawahara @ Feb 22 2018, 10:24 PM) *
Hi Pete.

I've prepped myself with a clean installation of the PRR ER Fix 06 cuz' from the forum post, the TDB has changed. Just an info in case you do not have it, the public beta PRRFIX06 (with tdb dated 02/11/2011 48,241 KB) is also known as beta 16 for the cd version, if my info is correct. This is based on the readme files files found in the downloads of PRR ER at TS.com. The forum post states that prrfix07 (tbd dated 07/14/2012, 47,919 KB) will not work with Vince's rebuild.

By-the-by, it's good to see the some familiar names posting here.
Craig

Hi Craig:
I sent you an e-mail, don't know if I had the right address. Let me know if you didn't get it.
Pete

Posted by: Conductor Chris Feb 27 2018, 10:47 PM

Pete, it's good to see you back here. I have appreciated your prior contributions greatly and very much enjoyed working on the PRR set to power your template.
Christopher

Posted by: xpdingo Mar 8 2018, 08:58 AM

QUOTE(Conductor Chris @ Feb 27 2018, 10:47 PM) *
Pete, it's good to see you back here. I have appreciated your prior contributions greatly and very much enjoyed working on the PRR set to power your template.
Christopher


Hi Christopher:

Sorry for the late reply, life's been crazy. I want to thank you and Valley Pass for what you have contributed to all these templates.

There is an update for the PRR Eastern being worked on that will correct a lot of errors on the route. It will update the route from fix6. Fix7 caused errors and is no longer available. This too is possibly being worked on in the future.

Once the update is released I will update the template with all the changes. This will require redoing a lot of the template package but it will improve everything.

The same rolling stock will be used and the same Valley Pass sets will be required.

Thanks again,

Pete

Posted by: Harlank Mar 15 2018, 03:01 PM

Hi guys

could someone post the website for the PRR Eastern Division dedicated forum? Tried to find it but no luck. And Pete, great to hear you are going to do an update. Such an awesome route!

harlank

Posted by: xpdingo Mar 15 2018, 04:04 PM

QUOTE(Harlank @ Mar 15 2018, 03:01 PM) *
Hi guys

could someone post the website for the PRR Eastern Division dedicated forum? Tried to find it but no luck. And Pete, great to hear you are going to do an update. Such an awesome route!

harlank


Hi Harlank:

I believe this is it https://www.trainsim.com/vbts/showthread.php?328525-Prr-er-route.

Pete

Posted by: Harlank Mar 15 2018, 10:28 PM

QUOTE(xpdingo @ Mar 15 2018, 05:04 PM) *
Hi Harlank:

I believe this is it https://www.trainsim.com/vbts/showthread.php?328525-Prr-er-route.

Pete




Thanks Pete

Posted by: dgionet Dec 21 2018, 09:56 AM

Hello to all,

Following health issues regarding Pete, he asked me to take over the PRR project and have accepted to take on the challenge. I have no idea how things will turn out. I will be posting later with any developments and details as it develops.

Posted by: Harlank Dec 23 2018, 08:17 PM

QUOTE(dgionet @ Dec 21 2018, 10:56 AM) *
Hello to all,

Following health issues regarding Pete, he asked me to take over the PRR project and have accepted to take on the challenge. I have no idea how things will turn out. I will be posting later with any developments and details as it develops.


Thanks for taking the project over Denis-hopefully Pete will be OK

harlank

Posted by: dgionet Dec 31 2018, 06:10 PM

Hello to all,

Since taking over the PRR Template mega project, I have been taking time to determine the proper downloads and studying the different railroads and their tracks.

The route itself is being beta tested and awaiting release in the future in the Trainsim site. As you know, the PRR includes trackage from the PRR, Baltimore & Ohio (B&O), Reading, Central New Jersey (CNJ) and Lehigh Valley (LV) railroads.

Taken from my latest template the Milwaukee Coast Division, 2nd Sub, this one will also use a lot of railfill from one of the downloads containing low-poly strings of cars. I will try to balance use of these strings to have a higher railfill while having a reasonable performance.

Because of the massive workload ahead and number of sidings ( 2500+), the entire template package is expected to be a series of multiple template projects. That means that such templates will need starting from scratch every time. An example is the marking of all serviceable sidings before making the track database files. That will be done each time a new railroad ( or new area within the same railroad) is started. Of course, not all sidings will become serviceable but will try to have at many as possible. As with the Conn River template, boxcars is expected to occupy around 75% of the rolling stock as the mid to late fifties seem to have this proportion of boxcars.

I am starting with the shortest railroads and keep the PRR last among the projects.

I am happy to present pictures of the first finished template of this project, here the Lehigh Valley Oak Island Yards template ( and the only one for the LV). It consists of exchange of cars between the Oak Island Yards (West and East yards) and the Greenville Yard. The Oak Island Yard is actually two yards bearing the same name and also some of the sidings. In this project, I have identified them separately as the Oak Island West and East Yards. Now about the Greenville Yard: although it has been under PRR ownership, it seems that the LV has access to the yard sidings. The North track across the bridge between Oak Island and the Greenville yard is LV trackage while the South track across the same bridge is PRR-run.

The Greenville Yard contains about 40 sidings (see picture below).

https://flic.kr/p/2cwwMHXhttps://flic.kr/p/2cwwMHX by https://www.flickr.com/photos/150924424@N08/, sur Flickr

However, only half of them are being used to maximize performance that wouldn't be possible if filling all sidings with high-poly railcars used for servicing. The 20 serviceable sidings have been carefully spreaded throughout the yard while many of the others have been railfilled with low-poly cars. The result has been very good using the railfill setting to 5 with around 500 cars, not including the string of low-polys as railfill. Traffic is present also in the template project as you will see in 2 of the shots.

The pictures will be shown in the next post

Posted by: dgionet Dec 31 2018, 06:11 PM

Here are the shots of the first successfull SLG-generated activity of the new PRR2 template:

https://flic.kr/p/RMjTHQhttps://flic.kr/p/RMjTHQ by https://www.flickr.com/photos/150924424@N08/, sur Flickr

https://flic.kr/p/RMjTGshttps://flic.kr/p/RMjTGs by https://www.flickr.com/photos/150924424@N08/, sur Flickr

https://flic.kr/p/2cwwMCMhttps://flic.kr/p/2cwwMCM by https://www.flickr.com/photos/150924424@N08/, sur Flickr

https://flic.kr/p/RMjTFLhttps://flic.kr/p/RMjTFL by https://www.flickr.com/photos/150924424@N08/, sur Flickr

https://flic.kr/p/2cwwMzFhttps://flic.kr/p/2cwwMzF by https://www.flickr.com/photos/150924424@N08/, sur Flickr

https://flic.kr/p/2cwwMxBhttps://flic.kr/p/2cwwMxB by https://www.flickr.com/photos/150924424@N08/, sur Flickr

https://flic.kr/p/RMjTALhttps://flic.kr/p/RMjTAL by https://www.flickr.com/photos/150924424@N08/, sur Flickr

https://flic.kr/p/2cwwMsMhttps://flic.kr/p/2cwwMsM by https://www.flickr.com/photos/150924424@N08/, sur Flickr

https://flic.kr/p/RMjTxjhttps://flic.kr/p/RMjTxj by https://www.flickr.com/photos/150924424@N08/, sur Flickr

https://flic.kr/p/2cwwMm4https://flic.kr/p/2cwwMm4 by https://www.flickr.com/photos/150924424@N08/, sur Flickr

I now expect to focus the next project on the Reading railroad which has 2 areas I can work. The first area is between the Camden Yards and Atlantic City. The second is between Doylestown and near the Reading terminal, in Philly.

More later as it develops

Posted by: dgionet Jan 17 2019, 07:56 PM

Hello to all,

Finally, working on the Reading templates are over. Eight (8) templates have been created. Two (2) are mainline NB & SB templates bewteen the Camden Yards (Philadelphia) and Atlantic City. Two (2) are passenger cars switching templates (PRR and RDG) in Atlantic City.

One depicts freight switching in the Camden Yards. The remaining three (3) are local runs between Philadelphia (Columbia ave Yard) and Lansdale/West Trenton and between Lansdale and West Trenton.

Like the previous LV template, strings of low-poly cars have been used to add some eye candy in areas where unnamed sidings are located.

Here are shots from some template activities that have been created:

https://flic.kr/p/QvGfG4https://flic.kr/p/QvGfG4 by https://www.flickr.com/photos/150924424@N08/, sur Flickr

https://flic.kr/p/2daYFyYhttps://flic.kr/p/2daYFyY by https://www.flickr.com/photos/150924424@N08/, sur Flickr

https://flic.kr/p/QvGfAxhttps://flic.kr/p/QvGfAx by https://www.flickr.com/photos/150924424@N08/, sur Flickr

https://flic.kr/p/2daYFvShttps://flic.kr/p/2daYFvS by https://www.flickr.com/photos/150924424@N08/, sur Flickr

https://flic.kr/p/QvGfwVhttps://flic.kr/p/QvGfwV by https://www.flickr.com/photos/150924424@N08/, sur Flickr

https://flic.kr/p/2daYFsAhttps://flic.kr/p/2daYFsA by https://www.flickr.com/photos/150924424@N08/, sur Flickr

https://flic.kr/p/QvGfs6https://flic.kr/p/QvGfs6 by https://www.flickr.com/photos/150924424@N08/, sur Flickr

https://flic.kr/p/2daYFoNhttps://flic.kr/p/2daYFoN by https://www.flickr.com/photos/150924424@N08/, sur Flickr

I have already started working on the next set of templates, this time for the CNJ (New Jersey Central). The areas identified as CNJ trackage has been between Jersey City and Elizabethport, then South to Bay Head via Matawan and Red Bank. From Matawan another branch reaches the Atlantic Highlands area. Another area is between Broad Street station (Newark) and Elizabethport. The last line is between Red Bank and Winslow Junction.

Posted by: dgionet Feb 9 2019, 07:22 PM

Hello to all,

Work on the Central New Jersey (CNJ) Templates is now over!

The total number of templates count is now 23: 1 for the LV, 8 for the Reading and 14 for the CNJ.

For the CNJ, there are 2 mainline (SB&NB) templates between Jersey City/Elizabethport and Bay Head (with minimal pickups at some yards along the route), 2 mainline locals templates (same run than the mainlines but serving also local services where it is possible), 6 templates for each yard being worked (JerseyCity, E-Port, Bayway, Perth Amboy, Red Bank and Bay Head) and 4 smaller locals templates (Between E-port and Broad St. Yard, between Matawan and Atlantic Highlands and 2 Templates (NB&SB) between Red Bank and Winslow Jct)

Here are some shots from different templates

https://flic.kr/p/QUzpQahttps://flic.kr/p/QUzpQa by https://www.flickr.com/photos/150924424@N08/, sur Flickr

https://flic.kr/p/2eAjKK9https://flic.kr/p/2eAjKK9 by https://www.flickr.com/photos/150924424@N08/, sur Flickr

https://flic.kr/p/QUzpMVhttps://flic.kr/p/QUzpMV by https://www.flickr.com/photos/150924424@N08/, sur Flickr

https://flic.kr/p/2eAjKJ7https://flic.kr/p/2eAjKJ7 by https://www.flickr.com/photos/150924424@N08/, sur Flickr

https://flic.kr/p/QUzpMphttps://flic.kr/p/QUzpMp by https://www.flickr.com/photos/150924424@N08/, sur Flickr

https://flic.kr/p/2eAjKFShttps://flic.kr/p/2eAjKFS by https://www.flickr.com/photos/150924424@N08/, sur Flickr

https://flic.kr/p/QUzpLHhttps://flic.kr/p/QUzpLH by https://www.flickr.com/photos/150924424@N08/, sur Flickr

https://flic.kr/p/2eEViavhttps://flic.kr/p/2eEViav by https://www.flickr.com/photos/150924424@N08/, sur Flickr

https://flic.kr/p/QUzpKvhttps://flic.kr/p/QUzpKv by https://www.flickr.com/photos/150924424@N08/, sur Flickr

https://flic.kr/p/2eEVi8ghttps://flic.kr/p/2eEVi8g by https://www.flickr.com/photos/150924424@N08/, sur Flickr

Will now be starting on the next set of templates, this time for the B&O. A lot more work ahead for this one Railroad but much less than the last one the PRR.

Posted by: dgionet Feb 24 2019, 09:44 AM

Hello to all,

Here are included shots from the first completed template for the B&O, that is the Northbound (NB) main template between Washington's Ivy City Yard and Philadelphia's Penrose Yard. It includes work only among the main yards along the run. The Yards that are being serviced are the Ivy City, Baltimore's Bayview, Wilmington's Wilsmere and Philadelphia's Penrose yards. On the oncoming SB main Yards run the Mt. Winans yard will be also part of the SB run since it cannot be accessed Northbound, only Southbound. On the first SLG generated NB run, an issue with one of the tank cars at MP 60 caused OR to crash. Retesting the route afterwards independtly on the same stretch went well all the way to Philly. It must have been an isolated issue.

A lot of work has been done to add string of cars to some of the main yards to add candy eyeview, mainly inside the Bayview and Wilsmere yards and adjusted the position of markers on many of the indistrial sidings.

Here are the shots:

https://flic.kr/p/R9jkrXhttps://flic.kr/p/R9jkrX by https://www.flickr.com/photos/150924424@N08/, sur Flickr

https://flic.kr/p/SLyUD7https://flic.kr/p/SLyUD7 by https://www.flickr.com/photos/150924424@N08/, sur Flickr

https://flic.kr/p/R9jkikhttps://flic.kr/p/R9jkik by https://www.flickr.com/photos/150924424@N08/, sur Flickr

https://flic.kr/p/R9jke2https://flic.kr/p/R9jke2 by https://www.flickr.com/photos/150924424@N08/, sur Flickr

https://flic.kr/p/SLyUr3https://flic.kr/p/SLyUr3 by https://www.flickr.com/photos/150924424@N08/, sur Flickr

https://flic.kr/p/2eUFJ2thttps://flic.kr/p/2eUFJ2t by https://www.flickr.com/photos/150924424@N08/, sur Flickr

A lot of work ahead after the SB main run; locals, engine switching templates, etc....

Will post later as it advances

Posted by: Conductor Chris Mar 5 2019, 03:42 PM

I want to tell you that these templates are looking *really* good. I am looking forward to exploring them. Thank you. You really have an eye for making realistic assemblies of cars.
Christopher

Posted by: dgionet Mar 8 2019, 11:23 AM

Thanks Christopher,

You have probably noticed that among the downloads, one is the 1947 Boxcars you have created. About all the boxcars downloads used in the templates, I have tried to keep about the same ratio as done with the Conn River Template, since the timeframe is about the same, that is in the late fifties (50's). I am using also the latest string of cars (revised 2017) to add railfill and use a lot of the Boxcars strings to add to the unused sidings. The cars used in the strings blend in very well with the era.

And now to all,

Here are shots from the latest template, the GLENBURNIE Template. It services cars between Baltimore's B&O Bayview Yard and Glen Burnie with a return trip back to Baltimore.

On this successfull SLG-generated activity, the train services the industries in the Baltimore highlands area. No sidings were selected to work at Glen Burnie, only inside the Highlands area. On this one the train had to service first the SB oriented sidings. Once done,the train used adjacent tracks to reverse the train and service the NB oriented sidings and back to Baltimore.

The shots.

https://flic.kr/p/SXj3NChttps://flic.kr/p/SXj3NC by https://www.flickr.com/photos/150924424@N08/, sur Flickr

https://flic.kr/p/SXj3L3https://flic.kr/p/SXj3L3 by https://www.flickr.com/photos/150924424@N08/, sur Flickr

https://flic.kr/p/SXj3J9https://flic.kr/p/SXj3J9 by https://www.flickr.com/photos/150924424@N08/, sur Flickr

https://flic.kr/p/SXj3Hshttps://flic.kr/p/SXj3Hs by https://www.flickr.com/photos/150924424@N08/, sur Flickr

https://flic.kr/p/2dZyr5Yhttps://flic.kr/p/2dZyr5Y by https://www.flickr.com/photos/150924424@N08/, sur Flickr

https://flic.kr/p/SXj3Fohttps://flic.kr/p/SXj3Fo by https://www.flickr.com/photos/150924424@N08/, sur Flickr

https://flic.kr/p/2dZyr4fhttps://flic.kr/p/2dZyr4f by https://www.flickr.com/photos/150924424@N08/, sur Flickr

https://flic.kr/p/SXj3DEhttps://flic.kr/p/SXj3DE by https://www.flickr.com/photos/150924424@N08/, sur Flickr

https://flic.kr/p/2dZyr3dhttps://flic.kr/p/2dZyr3d by https://www.flickr.com/photos/150924424@N08/, sur Flickr

https://flic.kr/p/SXj3B5https://flic.kr/p/SXj3B5 by https://www.flickr.com/photos/150924424@N08/, sur Flickr

Will update as it progresses

Posted by: Conductor Chris Mar 12 2019, 08:25 PM

Glad to see the "1947" boxcar set getting used - I made that with the PRR specifically in mind. It was basically all cars photographed on the PRR at Harrisburg in 1947 that didn't make it into the BLWZT PRR4 set.

According to THE POSTWAR FREIGHT CAR FLEET, boxcars represented 36-39% of the fleet in 1947, Hopper cars were 27% (covered hoppers, included in that number were less than 1%), Gondolas 12-16% (would be on the low end for PRR because many gondolas were used by Western coal roads instead of hoppers), tank cars 5-7%, Reefers 7-13%, stock cars 3%, and flat cars 1-3%.

By the late fifties, covered hoppers had increased in number but there were very few grain covered hoppers yet.

Glen Burnie was not a B&O branch, but was the Baltimore & Annapolis Railroad. They ran with a 70 Tonner. I cannot seem to find one in the file library.

Christopher

Posted by: dgionet Mar 13 2019, 01:36 PM

Hi Christopher,

Thanks for the input. Much appreciated.

I have applied the same % numbers as close as possible to the templates where it is applicable.

As for the Glen Burnie template, Pete used the B&O RR to have one template made for this area. There is a Trains Magazine chart on the B&O network around the 50's, which I have used to establish the areas applicable for the B&O templates. Also looked at Pete's templates to make sure I don't drift away too much from Pete's allocated areas for each Railroad.

Another issue regarding the 70-tonner. In the Baltimore highlands area, some areas have around 2.5% grades, which reminded me of the same issue encountered on the Springfield Terminal RR template done with the Conn River templates. There if I recall, the grades was around 4-5% in one area. I have to manually change the HP rating to have it pull at least 5 cars to/from Springfield. If I would use a 70-tonner, I believe the number of cars to be brought at/from Glen Burnie would be very limited.

Let me know if any findings that would be useful for the project.

Thanks

Posted by: dgionet Mar 19 2019, 05:35 PM

Hi to all,

Construction of the B&O Templates are now complete! The number of completed templates has now reached Thirty-Eight (38). That means that all non-PRR railroads templates are now done: that is, the LV, RDG, CNJ and B&O. I am considering two packages for the whole template project. One for the non-PRR templates and the second for the remaining PRR template package.

As for the B&O templates, they include 2 mainline SB & NB (main yards only), 2 mainline locals ( SB & NB ), 5 templates depicting exchange of cars between the B&O and PRR Yards. The first is between the Eckington and the Ivy City Yards. The second is between the Ivy City and the PRR Benning Yards. The third is between the Penn Mary and the B&O Bayview/PRR Bayview Yards. The fourth is between the Wilsmere and the PRR Wilmington Yards. The fifth is between the Penrose and Eastside Yards. There is one servicing the locomotives at the Wilsmere Engine shops area. Also two templates servicing the Philadelphia and Baltimore Piers. And finally the last three are locals servicing the East Avalon, Glen Burnie and the Shepherd Sub locations from their designated yards.

Here are fifteen images from the different SLG-generated activities.

https://flic.kr/p/24D7etzhttps://flic.kr/p/24D7etz by https://www.flickr.com/photos/150924424@N08/, sur Flickr

https://flic.kr/p/2e9K1UChttps://flic.kr/p/2e9K1UC by https://www.flickr.com/photos/150924424@N08/, sur Flickr

https://flic.kr/p/24D7eqZhttps://flic.kr/p/24D7eqZ by https://www.flickr.com/photos/150924424@N08/, sur Flickr

https://flic.kr/p/2e9K1KQhttps://flic.kr/p/2e9K1KQ by https://www.flickr.com/photos/150924424@N08/, sur Flickr

https://flic.kr/p/24D7emFhttps://flic.kr/p/24D7emF by https://www.flickr.com/photos/150924424@N08/, sur Flickr

https://flic.kr/p/2e9K1EEhttps://flic.kr/p/2e9K1EE by https://www.flickr.com/photos/150924424@N08/, sur Flickr

https://flic.kr/p/24D7eizhttps://flic.kr/p/24D7eiz by https://www.flickr.com/photos/150924424@N08/, sur Flickr

https://flic.kr/p/2e9K1AShttps://flic.kr/p/2e9K1AS by https://www.flickr.com/photos/150924424@N08/, sur Flickr

https://flic.kr/p/24D7ee6https://flic.kr/p/24D7ee6 by https://www.flickr.com/photos/150924424@N08/, sur Flickr

https://flic.kr/p/2e9K1vGhttps://flic.kr/p/2e9K1vG by https://www.flickr.com/photos/150924424@N08/, sur Flickr

See the next post for the remaining images

Posted by: dgionet Mar 19 2019, 05:36 PM

The remaining images:

https://flic.kr/p/24D7e9Xhttps://flic.kr/p/24D7e9X by https://www.flickr.com/photos/150924424@N08/, sur Flickr

https://flic.kr/p/2e9K1rdhttps://flic.kr/p/2e9K1rd by https://www.flickr.com/photos/150924424@N08/, sur Flickr

https://flic.kr/p/24D7e6khttps://flic.kr/p/24D7e6k by https://www.flickr.com/photos/150924424@N08/, sur Flickr

https://flic.kr/p/2e9K1o7https://flic.kr/p/2e9K1o7 by https://www.flickr.com/photos/150924424@N08/, sur Flickr

https://flic.kr/p/RugWvahttps://flic.kr/p/RugWva by https://www.flickr.com/photos/150924424@N08/, sur Flickr

Now that the non-PRR templates are done, I will start focusing now of the most difficult part of the whole project, the PRR. I will start working on the non-electrified trackage between Marysville and Pittsburgh, first between Marysville and Altoona and once done, between Altoona and Pittsburgh.

Will be updating later.


Posted by: dgionet Mar 28 2019, 05:07 PM

Hi to all,

Work has started on the PRR Templates and am happy to share shots from the first two templates, one of them is a first for me on this kind of template.

The first template focuses on the WB mainline non-electrified line between Altoona and Marysville. However, I have included both the Harrisburg and the enormous Enola Yards as starting points for Westbound runs to Altoona. At both yards, the activity starts entering both yards with GG-1 electric engines and the user will have to swap engines from Electric to Diesel. The replacing diesel engines that will replace the electric ones will be along the main path to allow this exchange. From there, the rest of the run to Altoona will be done on Diesel power. The only yards allowed to pickup/setout cars along the run will be at Marysville, Lewiston, Huntingdon and finally Altoona.

I have taken a lot of time to add low-poly strings of cars to have, to a certain point, well filled rail yards at Enola, Harrisburg, Marysville and finally Altoona. As it will be tested more deeply, I may proceed with adjustments if necessary.

Here are the shots from the first template:

https://flic.kr/p/2fmqw5rhttps://flic.kr/p/2fmqw5r by https://www.flickr.com/photos/150924424@N08/, sur Flickr

https://flic.kr/p/24JSh22https://flic.kr/p/24JSh22 by https://www.flickr.com/photos/150924424@N08/, sur Flickr

https://flic.kr/p/2fmqw2ahttps://flic.kr/p/2fmqw2a by https://www.flickr.com/photos/150924424@N08/, sur Flickr

https://flic.kr/p/24JSh1ahttps://flic.kr/p/24JSh1a by https://www.flickr.com/photos/150924424@N08/, sur Flickr

https://flic.kr/p/2fmqvXchttps://flic.kr/p/2fmqvXc by https://www.flickr.com/photos/150924424@N08/, sur Flickr

https://flic.kr/p/24JSgZDhttps://flic.kr/p/24JSgZD by https://www.flickr.com/photos/150924424@N08/, sur Flickr

https://flic.kr/p/2fmqvTphttps://flic.kr/p/2fmqvTp by https://www.flickr.com/photos/150924424@N08/, sur Flickr

See next post for details from the next template

Posted by: dgionet Mar 28 2019, 05:08 PM

The second template involves exchange of diesel engines inside the Altoona shops.

Working with locomotives is not a first for me but servicing engines with two (2) fully functional turntables is. Vince has done a worderful job making them functional. That is why this oncoming route must be run on Open Rails. It consists of exchanging engines between the roundhouse/ engine storage sidings and the engine shops. There are two shops in Altoona; the first is Juniata and the second is Altoona West. At Lewiston, you will be able to exchange engines to the shops but without any roundhouse or turntable.

One issue I have encountered: using the F6 key to view the sidings to be serviced ended with crashes. I have no idea what could be causing that. I have not encountered this issue elsewhere. Could it be related with the turntables? I may try to get in touch with Elvas tower with this issue at Altoona.

Here are shots from one section of the activity working on the first two operations at Juniata, that is swapping from the shops one engine to be transferred inside the roudhouse.


https://flic.kr/p/24JSgZihttps://flic.kr/p/24JSgZi by https://www.flickr.com/photos/150924424@N08/, sur Flickr

https://flic.kr/p/2fmqvRvhttps://flic.kr/p/2fmqvRv by https://www.flickr.com/photos/150924424@N08/, sur Flickr

https://flic.kr/p/24JSgXVhttps://flic.kr/p/24JSgXV by https://www.flickr.com/photos/150924424@N08/, sur Flickr

https://flic.kr/p/2fmqvMxhttps://flic.kr/p/2fmqvMx by https://www.flickr.com/photos/150924424@N08/, sur Flickr

https://flic.kr/p/24JSgX4https://flic.kr/p/24JSgX4 by https://www.flickr.com/photos/150924424@N08/, sur Flickr

https://flic.kr/p/2fmqvJrhttps://flic.kr/p/2fmqvJr by https://www.flickr.com/photos/150924424@N08/, sur Flickr

Will keep updating as it progresses

Posted by: ideaman May 19 2019, 06:49 AM

Hi All. Has anyone received any updates for PPR east. It's been six weeks sense I received any.Greg

Posted by: dgionet May 21 2019, 06:20 PM

Hi Greg,

Following the PRR-2 route release in April, some changes were made to the route I have received last December, which needed some changes to the template and have it ready to be released. Changes were minimal for part 1 (non PRR railroads) and has been ready for release.

However, I have received, a few weeks ago, from Rick Franzosa (BLW/ZT) news that he is working on updating the PRR-1 passenger pack textures (one of the downloads required) since the pack has been released more than 10 years ago. The oncoming update will also include correction on some incorrect numbers on some of the engines. That will affect some consists used in part 1 and also loose ones.

I am waiting for Rick's updated pack before making corrections to the template package and release after. That is the reason I have to hold back the template part 1 release. I don't expect important changes to part 1 but will be needed before releasing.

I have done barely a few templates for the part 2 package (PRR railroad) and will require major changes compared to part 1.

Will be posting as it develops.

Posted by: ideaman May 22 2019, 06:26 AM

Thanks Dennis for the update. Take your time no hurry, just thought it seemed a long time between threads. Greg

Posted by: dgionet Jun 2 2019, 08:33 AM

Hi to all,

Following an update from Rick Franzosa from (BLW/ZT) regarding the update to the PRR-1 passenger pack, no changes will be made to some of the numbers that were originally planned to be changed, only the textures will be changed. That means that no changes will be required to some of the consists and the PRR-2 part 1 template package can now be uploaded to the templates page. In addition to the part 1 package, I will make available later, on request, the first three templates from part 2. The first two are WB & EB mainline runs between Harrisburg/Enola and Altoona. The last one is the LOCO template, as seen on my latest posts with pictures on the activity.

At the time of this post, I have encountered an important issue with MSTS/OR a few days ago. While working on an activity, all the markers have stopped showing on the Activity Editor, not only on this specific Train Simulator Folder, but all on my mini routes. On the ACT file, the markers are all present inside the ACT file. I am currently looking up for the reason behind this issue. If any clues on your side, It would be much appreciated. I am at a deadstop now.

Will be writing to Steve for the oncoming uploading of part 1.

Thanks

Posted by: dgionet Jun 2 2019, 05:48 PM

Hi again,

Just to confirm that the template package (part 1) has been sent to Steve for uploading to the templates page. Will confirm once uploaded.

In the meantime, the issue I have encountered on my earlier post has been resolved by re-installing MSTS. Everything is OK now.


Posted by: Harlank Jun 21 2019, 12:25 PM

Hi Denis

any word on the Template part 1? Its been quite a while

harlank

Posted by: dgionet Jun 23 2019, 06:51 PM

Hi Harlank,

I haven't received any news from Steve since my last E-mail to him. He is often outside for a long time before replying.

Pending his oncoming reply, I will send, upon request and by e-mail the template package until its official uploading to the templates page.

You can request the PRR2 part 1 template package at photoman_57 [at] hotmail [dot] ca

Thanks

Posted by: dgionet Jul 1 2019, 05:28 PM

QUOTE(dgionet @ Jun 2 2019, 08:33 AM) *
In addition to the part 1 package, I will make available later, on request, the first three templates from part 2.


Hello to all,
I have received the green light from Benny to make available the first three PRR templates from the PRR-2 part 2 package. Thanks again Benny!

Those interested to get it are invited to get in touch with me ( see previous post for the E-mail address )

Since, I have completed 5 additional templates, two EB and WB locals between Enola/Harrisburg/Marysville and Altoona and done three yard exchange templates between the Enola/Harrisburg/Marysville yards.

I will start now additional templates depicting switching inside the main yards for each of the 4 yards above.

Posted by: ideaman Jul 2 2019, 06:08 AM

Hi Dennis. Your email came back as undeliverable. Would you check and see if it is Correct. Greg

Posted by: dgionet Jul 2 2019, 07:31 PM

Hi Greg,

The E-mail address is correct. If you still have issues, PM me privately here with your E-mail address. Will send it to you via email.

Thanks

Posted by: ideaman Jul 3 2019, 06:53 AM

QUOTE(dgionet @ Jul 2 2019, 07:31 PM) *
Hi Greg,

The E-mail address is correct. If you still have issues, PM me privately here with your E-mail address. Will send it to you via email.

Thanks

I will give it another try. Greg

Posted by: ideaman Jul 3 2019, 07:20 AM

QUOTE(ideaman @ Jul 3 2019, 06:53 AM) *
I will give it another try. Greg

Hi. just sent another email.Greg.

Posted by: ideaman Jul 6 2019, 06:27 AM

QUOTE(ideaman @ Jul 3 2019, 07:20 AM) *
Hi. just sent another email.Greg.

Thank you I got them. Greg.

Posted by: dgionet Jul 13 2019, 01:00 PM

Hi to all,

Just to confirm the section between Harrisburg/Enola and Altoona is now complete. 14 templates have been done on that section. That bring the total template count to 53.

I am stepping back temporarily from the PRR-2 template project to work on two other routes: the updated SALv3 template project and one on the newly released FJ&G v2 route.

Will be posting on those on oncoming posts.

Posted by: dgionet Aug 5 2019, 06:18 PM

Hi to all,

Just to confirm the PRR-2 part 1 template is now available in the templates page.

Again thanks to Benny for helping me with the testing.

Thanks again Steve for your assistance.

Will eventually resume work on the remaining part 2 project after a few projects including the SAlv3 template, currently on.

Enjoy the pack and will post later with new developments

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