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Skyline User's Forum _ Activity Generator _ Australian Routse - Outdated Templates

Posted by: dforrest Dec 7 2016, 01:03 PM

I have just purchased Activity Generator. One of my reasons for doing this was to make activities for Australian routes which currently have very few or no activities available. I am very disappointed the see that the three templates which are available for Australian routes are all for outdated versions of the particular route.

Has anyone any comment on this?

Posted by: dgionet Dec 9 2016, 07:32 PM

Hello David,

Thanks for the interest with the Australian route templates and with Activity Generator. All the templates you see in the templates page were done by users of AG and shared voluntarily with the Skyline community, without being paid for the time and efforts that were put in them. And it is a long and complex task making each one.! And it is even more challenging when working on international routes as many of us are not as familiar when it comes to learn the railway systems and rolling stock of other countries.

As one of the users of AG ( since 2007) The three Australian route templates I have made were done between 2007 and 2009.

The first has been for the Adelaide route, then the Illawara 2 and finally the NSW Southern Highlands route. The Adelaide 2 route template is for the route ( I believe) currently available on the steam4me site.

For the Illawara route, although the route has been updated ( or extended ) to version 3, I believe the one that has been done for v2 can be used on v3. Unless some of the template paths are corrupted, the template could be used on v3. That you could check it out. Once the template ( v2), the route (v3) and required rolling stock are installed, you can have it checked with RouteRiter if some issues with some of the template files.

For the NSW Southern Highlands route, I know it has been subsumed into the NSW SHort West and Short South route. You could proceed the same way with the Illawara 3 route to see if it can be run on the SW & SS route.

As the years pass other interests, health issues or aging can reduce our time with MSTS. My time now with template making is very limited, pursuing other avenues and like many of our users, I am getting older but not giving up on template making, just on a slower pace.

Thanks

Posted by: hminky Dec 10 2016, 12:36 PM

Tried the IllawaraV2 in the Template Library with V3.

Some paths don't work but there are those that do.

The Enfield-Botany/Botany-Enfield paths seem to be the ones that are broken.

Worth loading up.

Harold

Posted by: dforrest Dec 10 2016, 12:54 PM


Thanks for your response Denis. The AU_Adelaide, Hills & South East template does appear to be for the route currently avauilable. I apologise for my error and will be installing this and working with it.

The other two are completely updated routes with different route names and route file names. Even if paths remain valid (which I doubt), it will be very difficult to correlate all the necessary file adjustments. Unfortunately these are the two which most interest me as they currently have no activities available (AU_Adelaide, Hills & South East has)!





Posted by: hminky Dec 10 2016, 01:09 PM

Just put the IllawaraV2 Template files into V3 route and most of the paths work.

Really nice route
Thanks for the Template, Denis

Harold

EDIT: Modified the Enfield-Botany/Botany-Enfield Goods paths in the game with data in the template paths and saved them to the template paths.

They now are working haven't test them but the activities come up in the game.

Posted by: dforrest Dec 10 2016, 03:40 PM

QUOTE(hminky @ Dec 10 2016, 03:09 PM) *
Just put the IllawaraV2 Template files into V3 route and most of the paths work.

Really nice route
Thanks for the Template, Denis

Harold

EDIT: Modified the Enfield-Botany/Botany-Enfield Goods paths in the game with data in the template paths and saved them to the template paths.

They now are working haven't test them but the activities come up in the game.


That sounds very good. Could the updated paths be made available somewhere?

Posted by: hminky Dec 10 2016, 03:42 PM

Southern Highlands paths work, just put the template files into the route.

Harold

Posted by: dforrest Dec 11 2016, 05:34 AM

QUOTE(hminky @ Dec 10 2016, 05:42 PM) *
Southern Highlands paths work, just put the template files into the route.

Harold


Good morning Harold.

I have installed the IllawaraV2 template and am getting the path "Illawara2SBTemplateThirroul to Wollongong.pat" flagged as broken. How an I to remedy this with you suggestion concerning Southern Highlands paths?

Posted by: dforrest Dec 11 2016, 07:11 AM

These paths also appear to be broken:

Illawara2SBTraffic4.pat
Illawara2SBTraffic8.pat
Illawara2NBTraffic1.pat
Illawara2NBTraffic2.pat
Illawara2NBTraffic3.pat

Posted by: dforrest Dec 11 2016, 10:13 AM

It appears that the AU_AdelaideHills_SETemplate can be used in the AU_NSW_SW_SS route but with two broken paths. These are:

NSW_SHNBTraffic1.pat
NSW_SHNBTraffic9.pat

Posted by: dforrest Dec 13 2016, 10:50 AM

I have repaired the broken paths in the templates for use in AU_NSW_SW_SS and AU_NSW_Mi3. Unfortunately these do not work well as it is probably more that just repairing them which in needed. They appear to need to be adjusted for modifications made to the relevant sections of the routes. AU_NSW_SW_SS, which is set-up for steam locos for both player and traffic, is of very great interest to me.

Can anyone who knows the intricacies of the activities help me further?

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